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Ann Johnson and Dan Hastings are the focus for place based work in Telford and Great Yarmouth. Their efforts are the result of a new way of working for the Lloyds Bank Foundation. Not so much about money. Or power. More about acting as the catalyst for new conversations about public policy. The work is new. It started in the pandemic. In this episode Ann and Dan give an honest, straightforward description of progress and setbacks. Read more about the Lloyds Bank work at: https://www.lloydsbankfoundation.org.uk/we-develop/transforming-and-strengthening-services/people-and-communities